tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post5435899515350285338..comments2024-03-05T05:38:22.024-05:00Comments on Left at the Gate: Credit Where Due (Or Not)Alan Mannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12570505944559196118noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-57148605531527312432009-11-09T17:31:38.680-05:002009-11-09T17:31:38.680-05:00I remember when Drape would hang out in the bar an...I remember when Drape would hang out in the bar and ask people who to bet on. The guy knows very little about horse racing and it's ridiculous that he's become the horse racing authority for the country's most famous newspaper, and it's even more ridiculous that he's commenting on a subject as complex as medication. Believe me, the guy knows nothing. But I guess that just tells you how low journalism has sunk these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-48675592341820571072009-11-06T15:52:54.232-05:002009-11-06T15:52:54.232-05:00Yeah, I was lying. I didn't even bet the race...Yeah, I was lying. I didn't even bet the race. But still, great call, DP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-76691807813756142742009-11-06T15:37:26.095-05:002009-11-06T15:37:26.095-05:00Miss McCall wins @ $11.80Miss McCall wins @ $11.80DiscreetPicksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-53968412977092354852009-11-06T15:18:37.541-05:002009-11-06T15:18:37.541-05:00DiscreetPicks has been smokin' on this site!DiscreetPicks has been smokin' on this site!Alan Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12570505944559196118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-17064453080436926532009-11-06T15:10:31.451-05:002009-11-06T15:10:31.451-05:00Great call on Miss Macall, Discreet Pix!!!!! I so...Great call on Miss Macall, Discreet Pix!!!!! I somehow hooked her with the no-hoper in second and nailed me the exactor and a 10 cent super.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-38566324879039352722009-11-06T15:06:25.268-05:002009-11-06T15:06:25.268-05:00Agree about rome. He used to make fun horse player...Agree about rome. He used to make fun horse players but since he became an owner you can tell he's done a 180. He promotes the sport any chance he getsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-19897798680487070122009-11-06T14:56:25.076-05:002009-11-06T14:56:25.076-05:00Biggest plus I've heard for the BC is today...Biggest plus I've heard for the BC is today's Jime Rome Show on the radio. I think he'll be on TV in a few minutes with Rome Is Burning(from the SA paddock).<br />RGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-62992527662153931262009-11-06T13:52:44.534-05:002009-11-06T13:52:44.534-05:00Now, Alan, if you would only get as pissed off abo...Now, Alan, if you would only get as pissed off about the rest of the Times so-called "news coverage", I would be happy. Now the word is that Google is looking at riding in as the white knight to save the old rag....and Google is even further out there than the present lot. I still would consider getting the Times if they did away with the A section, a section which has become unnecessary in the Age of Drudge. /S/greenmtnpunterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-62344414234443000062009-11-06T12:22:23.492-05:002009-11-06T12:22:23.492-05:00Alan:
Never heard of these guys - are they credib...Alan:<br /><br />Never heard of these guys - are they credible?<br /><br />Saw this ad on Facebook - trackplayer.com - supposedly giving away $10 - $100 to each new member for 'Breeders' Cup Bonanza' they call it.. Never heard of them, but free money is free money. I got $25.<br /><br />Thought I would share.<br /><br />TrentTrent Podnesikhttp://www.intuit.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-40498782722235966402009-11-06T12:07:24.006-05:002009-11-06T12:07:24.006-05:00Santa Anita - Race 2
#11 Miss McCall (6/1 ml)
S...Santa Anita - Race 2<br /><br />#11 Miss McCall (6/1 ml)<br /><br />Smallish gray filly can really motor, breaking from an extreme outside post last time to press early fractions that were only a tick slower to the half-mile and 5-furlong mark than those set in the Grade 1 Ancient Title (won by the Breeders Cup Sprint challenger Gayego) an hour later on the same card. Seemed to tire just a bit through the final furlong, but that's understandable considering her early exertions, and also the fact that she was making her first start in over 4 months. Clearly enjoys the surface, holds a nice pace edge here, and should be fitter with the comeback race under her belt. Hard to find much fault with her. DiscreetPicksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-10763019961009626342009-11-06T11:34:19.463-05:002009-11-06T11:34:19.463-05:00Drape has a story today on synthetic track safety....Drape has a story today on synthetic track safety. In it he cites stats that show a decrease in CA breakdowns. But he also asserts that breakdowns had increased a bunch through the mid part of this decade before the poly came in. So perhaps poly is as safe now as dirt used to be? Or the sample's too small? Or some other factor (drugs?) is playing a role?<br /><br />If you're gonna be down on Drape, you should be 3X as mad at the folks who control this sport who've done so little to clean it up. Erin, well put.steve in nchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04061356872686618093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-75031634408084305062009-11-06T11:14:35.865-05:002009-11-06T11:14:35.865-05:00What's a shame is that The Grey Lady continues...What's a shame is that The Grey Lady continues to give Drape inches to constantly slam racing. Seriously why not just give what scant space they do for racing to Bill Finley? <br /><br />Keeping the cheaters in check is fine and I have no objections. However where are the positive stories? Finley is not without aiming a light on the roaches in his articles but do it in such a way that he doesn't make fans of the sport feel dirty.<br /><br />Drape's "Zenyatta" story was mixed in with more then a twinge of slamming Rachel Alexandra. <br /><br />Since Drape really has little to say positive about racing I think he should just do what the LA Times sports writer TJ Simers did: he openly said he was done with the sport and would never, ever write another word about it. If only we could wish the same about Joe.Glimmerglassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-86642875359092689302009-11-06T09:18:40.285-05:002009-11-06T09:18:40.285-05:00Not so sure I'd want NYRA's endorsement ba...Not so sure I'd want NYRA's endorsement based on the track record of their gaming partner picks. They couldn't get MGM across the line during its indicment, they seemingly hand picked Delaware North and that didn't work, now they have come out and given a vote of confidence to S.L. Green. I'd rather be one of the other guys!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-82029210890776649512009-11-05T22:40:12.847-05:002009-11-05T22:40:12.847-05:00Watchful Horseman.
Charlie Hayward, is determined...Watchful Horseman.<br /><br />Charlie Hayward, is determined to keep NYRA's name, in the courts, continuing their well worn,<br />'track record' of spending the states monies, in litigation.<br /><br />Amusing in one way, Governor Paterson's, rightfully determined, to cut back the budget, but he has <br />NYRA still running, financially unrestrained. <br /><br />4 Nov '09.<br /><br />www.courthousenews.com/2009/11/04/Horse_Racing_War_Gets_Acrimonious.htm<br /><br />- The President of the NYRA, says the president of an Off-Track Betting regional office <br />defamed him in the New York Post as a "liar and a thief." <br />The OTB office accused the NYRA of defamation this summer. <br /><br />In his complaint in Nassau County Court, NYRA President Charles Haywood says the feud began when the Nassau Regional OTB illegally broadcast live simulcasts of horse races over the Internet…………….<br /><br />xxxx<br /><br />Does anyone have a recall, on the very heated reported, radio interview (WFAN Radio), between Hayward and Nassau OTB spokesman Robert Zimmerman, on 24th July 2009, on this subject ?<br /><br />Which Aqueduct bidder is NYRA presently favoring ? Going by NYRA's continual reneging, over agreements, in past yrs, especially to NY state, they may have been handed, a poisoned chalice !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-45612743511274710852009-11-05T18:28:05.383-05:002009-11-05T18:28:05.383-05:00Agreed, can't change the "notion" th...Agreed, can't change the "notion" that racing is fixed, but we can stop races from intentionally being fixed. Jocks and agents, racing office staff, trainers, vets and owners just all need to STOP contributing to this problem. A little more intervention from state Attorney Generals, along with the FBI chaps would help. there is a belief amongst law enforcement that as long as you confine organized crime you can control its effects on the general masses, so we do need them to break this "keep it at the racetracks" barrier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-80078773270619433082009-11-05T17:57:42.008-05:002009-11-05T17:57:42.008-05:00From talking to many of my friends who aren't ...From talking to many of my friends who aren't into the Sport of Kings, the three major turnoffs of horse racing are: (1) the notion that the races are fixed; (2) the notion that the horses and trainers are crooks with drugs and cheating; and (3) the notion that everyone who plays horse racing is seedy and degenerate.<br /><br />#1 is impossible to change. #2 and #3 are possible to change but would both require a ton of work.El Angelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14145024095815950963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-22100462794289963362009-11-05T17:49:01.195-05:002009-11-05T17:49:01.195-05:00Steve, thanks for the clarification.
SaratogaSpa,...Steve, thanks for the clarification.<br /><br />SaratogaSpa, I think the drugs issue is much more detrimental to the creation of new fans than it is to keeping current ones from leaving.Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966895737564174215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-3802390095436106762009-11-05T16:54:34.855-05:002009-11-05T16:54:34.855-05:00El Angelo-I agree with you on humans vs. horses......El Angelo-I agree with you on humans vs. horses... and thanks for pointing out the difference. I do believe that despite alot of talk and bluster I don't know how many fans/horseplayers actually leave the sport because of drugs.SaratogaSpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05181152277681879529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-52382324136094348962009-11-05T16:54:04.227-05:002009-11-05T16:54:04.227-05:00Erin,
Sorry for the confusion. I did not mean to...Erin, <br />Sorry for the confusion. I did not mean to say he's giving the PETA wackos more ammo but that the racing industry's lack of credibility in this area (through lax rules, token punishments, etc, etc.) is providing the ammo. Re-reading my comments, I understand how they could be interpreted as criticism due to my poor phrasing.<br /><br />El Angelo, to clarify, I thought you made an excellent point, obvious or not!Steve Mundayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07610339768009395207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-38980026620762677042009-11-05T16:41:27.803-05:002009-11-05T16:41:27.803-05:00I thought I was just pointing out the obvious.I thought I was just pointing out the obvious.El Angelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14145024095815950963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-67865624805631918052009-11-05T16:24:12.964-05:002009-11-05T16:24:12.964-05:00Steve, he's not giving PETA types "more a...Steve, he's not giving PETA types "more ammo," they are well aware of this argument.Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966895737564174215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-52880874445354307182009-11-05T15:18:36.168-05:002009-11-05T15:18:36.168-05:00Great from El Angelo on difference between human &...Great from El Angelo on difference between human & equine athletes. Why not give more ammo to the nut-job PETA activists who want to ban horse racing while we're at it?<br /><br />Another difference between drugs in MLB and horse racing: wagering handle funds the sport (at least until every track is a lifeless racino). How do you expect people to bet $$ when they can't trust things are on the up and up? <br /><br />Many reasons why handle is tanking but lack of credibility when it comes to policing race day meds isn't helping.Steve Mundayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07610339768009395207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-12059011191002451322009-11-05T14:23:28.135-05:002009-11-05T14:23:28.135-05:00Drape's not a bad fellow and he means well. h...Drape's not a bad fellow and he means well. he's an ole' horse racing guy that is disgusted with our inability to change for the better. I applaud his tactic of "shame for change."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-3755881658643035642009-11-05T14:03:04.976-05:002009-11-05T14:03:04.976-05:00Drape's continually negative tone in the count...Drape's continually negative tone in the country's biggest newspaper is disturbing.rather rapidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07517841195715154873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-82303677798296329892009-11-05T14:02:13.158-05:002009-11-05T14:02:13.158-05:00And I agree with the difference El Angelo points o...And I agree with the difference El Angelo points out. It's the same reason no one protests the ethics of car racing or other equally dangerous sports with human atheletes.Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966895737564174215noreply@blogger.com