tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post675046427327670487..comments2024-03-05T05:38:22.024-05:00Comments on Left at the Gate: Getnick and Getnick Again and AgainAlan Mannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12570505944559196118noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-34229518044550943162012-06-22T07:03:38.907-04:002012-06-22T07:03:38.907-04:00Those 20k kids came to party and NOT gamble. It&#...Those 20k kids came to party and NOT gamble. It's a fact. The illusion of potential fans is nonsense. They see BSD as a party just like one at a concertAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-71671631345285916202012-06-02T10:13:29.670-04:002012-06-02T10:13:29.670-04:00Anon 1107, I spent that day in the backyard and si...Anon 1107, I spent that day in the backyard and simple crowd control by properly trained NYRA security could have prevented any and all issues, as it does with the first two legs of the crown. Security was all but absent, which resulted in the police needing to enter the premises late in the day. <br /><br />I am sure the changes were financially motivated as well, short term financial gain at the long term cost of failing to develop new fans. <br /><br />Many long term NYRA patrons, including myself and many of my friends, were introduced to racing on big race days in the backyard, 20k potential future patrons are absent in exchange for a small bump in revenue. I also know a few regulars, fairly large bettors, who are insulted by the increased prices and beer restrictions and stay away that day. I find them irrational but facts are facts, they are going to Yonkers that day.Figlessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-36582414343743561882012-06-01T11:24:10.788-04:002012-06-01T11:24:10.788-04:00On Weather.com the 10 day is for mostly cloudy &am...On Weather.com the 10 day is for mostly cloudy & 74.<br /><br />Lets hope for a fast track & sunny day but not 95 as it was with Big Brown in 2008.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-788328874058149242012-06-01T11:07:21.224-04:002012-06-01T11:07:21.224-04:00When they banned BYOB beer at the Stakes it was in...When they banned BYOB beer at the Stakes it was in response to Nassau County Police maintaining they could not provide backup to Belmont security with conditions in the backyard. NYRA raised the General Admission price from $2 to $10. The attendance plummeted, the gate was the same and the handle was unaffected.They also sold a lot more beer.NYRA was pinching themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-17292068646953566492012-06-01T10:30:59.579-04:002012-06-01T10:30:59.579-04:00Agree they will never approach 120k due to the bee...Agree they will never approach 120k due to the beer ban, which I still maintain is a mistake. <br /><br />It created security issues and instead of hiring sufficient competant security NYRA instead turns away 20k young potential long term customers. <br /><br />Would not be surprised if this policy ends up spreading to the rest of the racing calendar now that the State officially owns the land and is running things, of course hiding behind liability issues like they do at music concerts in State Parks such as Jones Beach and Spac.<br /><br />If the weather holds up they should draw 100k.Figlessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-73432202618926415182012-06-01T10:22:52.173-04:002012-06-01T10:22:52.173-04:00Long range indicates it could very well be wet, an...Long range indicates it could very well be wet, and IHA's lone bad race came in NY over a sloppy race track. <br /><br />Have any of the "journalists" ever asked ONeill what went wrong that day in Saratoga?<br /><br />As the date nears and if the forecast continues to trend WET this will become the big story.Figlessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-39067640531223502802012-06-01T09:35:11.008-04:002012-06-01T09:35:11.008-04:00The weather will effect how many people show up ho...The weather will effect how many people show up however no chance of getting $120K again. NYRA stopped Bring your own beer. This cut down on people plus 30K came from philly. I saw the max will be about 100K.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-43984143359689028812012-06-01T09:08:23.942-04:002012-06-01T09:08:23.942-04:00How crowded Belmont will be on the 9th depends on ...How crowded Belmont will be on the 9th depends on the weather, the weather, and the weather. Bad weather, they'll get 90k, great weather, they'll top Smarty Jones' year.El Angelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14145024095815950963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-78733077176663199492012-05-31T21:11:04.616-04:002012-05-31T21:11:04.616-04:00The evidence suggests that Getnick, Alan Hevesi, N...The evidence suggests that Getnick, Alan Hevesi, NYRA and Federal Judge Spatt were all in on the questionable closure of the 2003-04 case against the racing association.<br /><br />Friend's of NY Racing's Tim Smith did indeed get caught up in this fiasco, but as he he was intending to make NY's horse industry a better place with a future. Look at where we are now and think about where we could have been.<br /><br />The Getnick/NYRA relationship must be examined in the brightest of lights. Something seems strange?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-2934904774997622242012-05-31T20:54:19.689-04:002012-05-31T20:54:19.689-04:00Evidence suggests that the NYRA stopped paying Get...Evidence suggests that the NYRA stopped paying Getnick well in advance of DiNapoli's criticism of the NYRA, perhaps as early as February of 2010. Why? Was Getnick only working "half-assed" during the time it was still under contract but not being paid?<br /><br />The petition the NYRA filed in bankruptcy court to re-open the "Old NYRA" case relative to its contrct with Getnick was approved by the bankruptcy judge today. Does this mean that the NYRA is under bankruptcy protection and the Cuomo edict is null and void?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-27738877683182721172012-05-31T20:28:03.386-04:002012-05-31T20:28:03.386-04:00The Belmont will draw the numbers and it will be a...The Belmont will draw the numbers and it will be a party atmosphere dominated with a younger picnic area and those that were too drunk to remember the 2008 bathroom fiasco.<br /><br />However, the overhanging cloud won't be that of NYRA it will be that of the west coast version of Richard Dutrowl. Did anyone catch the CNN interview with O’Neal’s brother? He said they had togoogle "milk shaking" because no one in the stable knew what it was. <br /><br />The negativity surrounding NYRA is the hangover affect from the 90's and the continual bashing from the politicos insure that the public perception will not change. <br /><br />There was no better man for the job than Charlie Hayward and his $475K salary was a bargain. He wasn't afraid to draw the line in the sand with the know-it-all governor and unfortunately that was his undoing. Charlie was part of the solution. <br /><br />I can not get over how quick Dunker and the good old boys folded. <br /><br />How long before they announce Saratoga 60-day meet, PSL's for seating, charging for picnic tables and of course No Smoking on grounds?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-87334034812848486002012-05-31T18:40:07.345-04:002012-05-31T18:40:07.345-04:00Majority of people attending the Belmont wouldn...Majority of people attending the Belmont wouldn't give a sh*t about NYRA. It will be all about being seen with your group of friends, getting drunk,partying and moving on to the next 'place to be seen." Racing ? -- so yesterday -- until the Travers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-84803055044362586932012-05-31T18:07:36.273-04:002012-05-31T18:07:36.273-04:00Thank you Alan. I only disagree about the race (I...Thank you Alan. I only disagree about the race (I think he'll have another) and the crowd. <br /><br />If sports fans were deterred by bad ownership, Yankee Stadium would have been half-empty during Steinbrenner's heyday and the Knicks would have played to empty seats last season.<br /><br />They'll come next Saturday, and as it says in John 12:08, they'll go away hating NYRA.<br /><br />Did Drape change his stance in writing that racing brings in money to the state or is it just Cuomo who's been so wrong about that. Hard to keep track.steve in nchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04061356872686618093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-25222648825510932332012-05-31T17:51:24.330-04:002012-05-31T17:51:24.330-04:00Great Post Alan
@ Anon (12:13) Actually the ban o...Great Post Alan<br /><br />@ Anon (12:13) Actually the ban on Soda is not yet law. It first must be approved by the City Board of Health...and what you know..all members were hand picked by Nanny Bloomberg himself.SaratogaSpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05181152277681879529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-5603932449332862112012-05-31T16:02:52.001-04:002012-05-31T16:02:52.001-04:00Excellent commentary.Excellent commentary.wmcorrownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-91617005757339448082012-05-31T12:13:32.550-04:002012-05-31T12:13:32.550-04:00I see you won't be able to buy a large soda in...I see you won't be able to buy a large soda in NYC anymore. Why hasn't he banned booze and smokes? Aren't they much worse for you than a large soda? What a Nazi Bloomberg is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-43437708366613637332012-05-31T12:08:14.763-04:002012-05-31T12:08:14.763-04:00Whether I'll Have Another wins or loses, no su...Whether I'll Have Another wins or loses, no sustainable new fans will be created.<br /><br />And when those you try and leave Belmont finally arrive home at 10 PM, NYRA will once again have made itself a whole new set of enemies.<br /><br />They can't help it. It's in their genes.John D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01139189131396901685noreply@blogger.com