tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post1896871045413208922..comments2024-03-05T05:38:22.024-05:00Comments on Left at the Gate: Bettors Can't Get Handle on KeenelandAlan Mannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12570505944559196118noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-75078350041126492062008-05-07T18:34:00.000-04:002008-05-07T18:34:00.000-04:00Thanks...Canan EoyMarketingThanks...<BR/><BR/>Canan Eoy<BR/><A HREF="http://www.ezedir.com/Article/Marketing/" REL="nofollow">Marketing</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-28719696174991338542008-04-18T20:29:00.000-04:002008-04-18T20:29:00.000-04:00I don't bet or buy PP's anymore on account of gas ...I don't bet or buy PP's anymore on account of gas and food going thru the roof. Geez gas went up 15 cents overnight today. Going to Saratoga is out of the question this year. Hey, there's TVG's free account with play money that keeps me amused!! You haven't seen anything yet with gas and food prices. Just wait!! For now its just watch the races.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-51065718881689078532008-04-18T11:07:00.000-04:002008-04-18T11:07:00.000-04:00I have no problem with the Polytrack at Keeneland ...I have no problem with the Polytrack at Keeneland from a wagering standpoing. I think you can find some live horses at generous odds and it's much, much better than the old concrete surface. I think it just adds a new element to the game and those horseplayers that "figure it out" quicker than everyone else will be rewarded. I've had a nice October at Keeneland last year after a rather poor April '07. Now that I've seen a few meets on the Poly, I feel I have a better handle on it.<BR/><BR/>In the Premier Pick 4 on Bluegrass Day, I only used three horses, PYRO as my main choice and MONBA/COWBOY CAL as backup choices. I wasn't surprised about anybody's performance on the Poly other than PYRO's (I thought he was at least a cinch to hit the board against that bunch if he had the least bit of affinity for the fake stuff). I still plan to back that one in the Derby unless I play chalk.<BR/><BR/>As someone who visits Keeneland a couple times per meet, I can say that I am enjoying myself much more since the switch to Polytrack even though we no longer have the opportunity to hit easy picks like SINISTER MINISTER on Bluegrass Day. How did that horse go off at such long odds when everyone (and I mean everyone!) knew about the old speed bias at Keeneland.Harlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16515575955224982258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-16622952329943991902008-04-18T09:36:00.000-04:002008-04-18T09:36:00.000-04:00>>t's closer to turf racing than dirt racing. Who ...>>t's closer to turf racing than dirt racing. Who needs that? <BR/><BR/>I thought people like turf racing, and that the handle figures are generally good on the grass? I'd actually like to see a breakdown on those handle numbers by main track and grass races, to see if the figures are down more for the Poly races.<BR/><BR/>also, as I wrote in the post, I think there's too much emphasis on the Blue Grass. Yes, it's bad if the race becomes irrelevant to the Derby....and I imagine that Keeneland management will be rooting for Pyro to come in 20th! But the race wasn't so relevant before the Poly was installed. Remember Sinister Minister?<BR/><BR/>John - Patrick was tooling around with the layout, so you can blame him if you don't like it. I'm still deciding myself.Alan Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12570505944559196118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-23374247508672685432008-04-18T09:27:00.000-04:002008-04-18T09:27:00.000-04:00Keeneland is a partner in Polytrack--which is why ...Keeneland is a partner in Polytrack--which is why I think you have to throw out anything they say about the surface. The more places that put in Polytrack, the more money Keeneland makes. There's no way that anyone associated with the track could say anything negative about the surface.Teresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03118955760148482020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-12479160951827677432008-04-18T09:20:00.000-04:002008-04-18T09:20:00.000-04:00Last year's Blue Grass was an even bigger joke. On...Last year's Blue Grass was an even bigger joke. One more year and horsemen will start to avoid it.<BR/><BR/> For Keeneland's spokesman to say he doesn't know why handle is off 17% is disingenuous. He knows why. A lot of people don't like synthetic tracks, period.<BR/><BR/>It's closer to turf racing than dirt racing. Who needs that? And it remains to be seen whether it helps the horses which was the putative rationale for it.<BR/><BR/>Keeneland (and Del Mar) will insist that it's okay right up until they decide to take it out.ballyfagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16946523913002020541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-89528917029806327292008-04-18T08:17:00.000-04:002008-04-18T08:17:00.000-04:00the races as a whole aren't bad but when you have ...the races as a whole aren't bad but when you have a grade 1 with horses with no previous experience on the surface handicapping is a crap shoot its not like baffert says "it makes an average horse look good and a good horse look average" its more like "it makes an all weather horse look good a dirt horse look average" in my opinion it may be good for racing but it has turned into a plague for the derby trailAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-3103907812418574162008-04-18T08:16:00.000-04:002008-04-18T08:16:00.000-04:00MSG has got me with the "I am a Ranger" campaign.....MSG has got me with the "I am a Ranger" campaign...I love it. And now I see I'm not alone...Teresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03118955760148482020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-72372821815932131062008-04-18T07:48:00.000-04:002008-04-18T07:48:00.000-04:00AlanWhat the hell is Patrick's profile doing in th...Alan<BR/><BR/>What the hell is Patrick's profile doing in the upper right corner?Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03874325506841146077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8711985.post-21913479694568751102008-04-17T23:56:00.000-04:002008-04-17T23:56:00.000-04:00I bet very little now at KEEN.Can't handicapp It.I...I bet very little now at KEEN.<BR/>Can't handicapp It.<BR/><BR/>I usually just bet the turf races.<BR/><BR/>I've also cut down at Delmar and S.A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com